The Gulf War Veterans’ Illnesses Task Force (GWVI-TF) 2012 Report

Sleep Apnea should be a Presumptive Condition for Gulf War Vets

Sleep Apnea should be made a Presumptive Condition for All Gulf War Veterans! Every Gulf War Vet I know has Sleep Apnea, including myself. Currently, "Undiagnosed Sleep Disturbances" are considered a presumptive for us, but good luck getting a VA Doc to diagnose you with an "Undiagnosed" condition. Diagnosed Sleep Apnea is prevalant in the Gulf War Vet population, and should be service connectable on a presumptive basis.

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      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I TRULY AGREE I MAY SLEEP 4 hrs EVERY THREE DAYS & NEVER @ NIGHT aways on guard i used to go bowling dam go average(221) not anymore crowds ..enjoyed the movie theaters can't go I ASK YOU MARINE WHERE'S our HELP ??

      • Jim BunkerJim Bunker commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        What you need to understand is that the medication you are on to treat PTSD, Depression and chronic pain all can cause Sleep apnea.
        Sleep apnea is not caused by PTSD and thus you cannot file a claim for it being caused by PTSD (secondary to PTSD). It is due to the medication you are taking for PTSD or depression. You also need a doctor nexus to that fact. Some medication do have these known side effects, along with the weight gain. Read the article in ngwrc.org

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        sleep apnea should be a presumptive condition because of in combat zone, tired & sleepiness all the times.

      • jIMjIM commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I have 50 percent for ptsd and 10 for tinnitus.
        I was turned down for secondary CPAP EVEN THO i WEAR IT EVERY NIGHT.
        I AM AT A LOSS.
        JIM / U S ARMY.
        THANK YOU.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I couldn't even be rated at 0%. My denial stated that even though my SA was directly aggrevated by my PTSD, obesity is still the main cause of my SA. They took one segment out of a whole sentence that my Dr. wrote in a nexus letter and used it as a reason not to grant a rating.

      • RamónRamón commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I am just another frustrated Gulf War veteran, and was denied again. Not only do I have sleep apnea, and also have the CPAP machine, the VA has denied all my claim. I am tiried and only 58 years old that served this country (12 active and 7 reserve), but because of my conditions, to include asthma, I couls not complete 20 good years to retire when I reach 60. Making me sick in the stomach, as I continue to see doctors after doctors, and none will write me a letter indicating that "Yes, these conditions could had been Gulf War related". I had one VA doctor tell me he didn't care and that I could not prove I was even there. Making me mad and very frustrated, and I ask was his support in his diognose for all I am getting treated, which all listed Gulf War Undiognose Syndrome. I don't know who to turn these days, and now to matter worse, I am unemployed and receive no unemployment becuase in Georgia we only get 14 weeks. I might as well be homeless with my family. I am asking if someone knows of any other support us Gulf War veteran can turn to for help in getting our well deserve disability, I am truly appreciated. Thx.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I was diagnosed with apnea 2 years ago and the v a denied me but I'm not done I already emailed the CEO of the v a Mr Michael a McDonald . It is not about me its about all vets when I get done with my crusade I am going to continue for other vets. David a hopka

      • JIGJIG commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I agree 100% they denied my claim for Sleep Apnea and Excessive Daytime Sleepiness. However, they treat me for the conditions. GySgt USMC Retired

      • armand Brasseurarmand Brasseur commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Unfortunately, those that have long left service can only hope a compassionate doctor to aid in the fight for the lacking evidence in our SMR. Those active service reading take note that the SMR must be documented properly to pave the way for a future VA claim. Do not suck up your illnesses or injuries. Document evetything. Keep copies of all your orders, keep in contact with past comrades if needed for evidence. Be sure while in active service be dure to see a specialist to diagnose all mefical problems snd discuss where, when and why is written in thd SMR. NEXUS, chronic 6 months, combat related war or training, all get in the records. Periodically check doctor notes and if not accurate go back and have it corrected.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Terry, you need to reopen your case because you temporarily stopped breathing during Desert Storm. This temporary lack of oxygen is known as hypoxia or oxygen deficiency, which is bad for the heart as well as the rest of the body. You need an up to date sleep study test to confirm the presence of sleep apnea. Only in this this way can the two be linked together, because the two are definitely service-connected from Desert Storm. You may need to be on a CPAP machine.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        You need to get a pulmonary doctor to say you got a restrictive airway or lung problem. That in itself will rate a 0% disability, but because obstructive sleep apnea is somehow connected with restrictive airways, it will rate a 30% disability, and then with the CPAP machine for breathing at night, the disability will total 50%. That's all you will get, because no pyramiding is allowed.

      • Anonymous commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        i dont understand if so many of us have sleep apnea why want they make it service connectable i did not have the until after the gulf war

      • TerryTerry commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I'm a Desert Storm Vet. and I have tried to get disability for sleep apnea but was told I had a irregular heartbeat only, my heartbeat issues started because I stop breathing while sleeping during desert storm and was hospitalize for a week. I have grown tired of the fight with the V.A., the V.A. wasn't giving anyone sleep apnea fro that time frame.

      • TyTy commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I wad waiting for my study and no one called me back! This was 10 years ago. I submit another request again and I never had anyone call me back. I wrote the congress person in my district, I thought that would help? Yeah right. So last year I submit a sleep study in October of last year. I was told that it would be in September 2014 because they are backlogged.

      • RealistRealist commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Wah, wah, wah. Let's see how much we can rip off Uncle Sam for. Get a life. No one forced you to enlist. You are not hero's, you're just another government employee doing a job. And dont't give me that we fought for your freedoms and way of life. B.S. No member of the military has fought for anything like that since WWII. It's a shame you all can't see that you have been fighting not for America, but for corporate interests and power brokers since then, otherwise know as the Military Industrial Complex. Dubious VA disability benefits are helping to bankrupt this country which you so nobly volunteered to serve. Not a very noble or heroic thing to do, to try and get whatever you can out of the taxpayers...

      • Jim BunkerJim Bunker commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        central apnea can be caused be neurological problems and also due to medication for pain. If you are on pain meds for a illness or injury that is service related and SC by the VA, you maybe able to get the SA as secondary to that. You would have to have a doctor say that is is at less a 50% / 50 %or better.

      • Gil USMC 1991Gil USMC 1991 commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Just got my sleep apnea denial from the VA. Served in the USMC in the gulf, went to mopp level four twice, took the nerve agent pills, and camped for months next to oil fires, all that I believe caused my apnea which also got classified as central apnea. What can we do to get it classified as presumptive. I'm going to appeal, but a hear its 0% chance. They did make my broncotis service connected noncompensable.

      • Jim BunkerJim Bunker commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        Col Kent the problem was that the research never went to the next step on the sleep study for gulf war veterans. The researchers told the RAC the problem is they cannot get the number of veterans needed for the study for a large scale study. While the VA can look at the number of Desert Storm veterans that are Dx with SA and other DX illness as they were to, they to this date have not. The VA only looks for mental illness problem. When one looks for only one thing they will never see the whole battle field.

      • dd commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        It's sucks to be us. Two veterans might have the same claim characteristics; gulf war, environmental exposure, etc... For Sleep apnea you need to have at least one indication that it started while in service. Sleeping disturbances, chronic cough, etc... But the sad thing here depends on the examiner you had during the examination. They most of the time are required to provide an opinion, but if you had one of them that woke up in a bad mood that day, or he/she think, based on their knowledge, that the condition just do not have any relation to service; you are with the majority of the veterans; with a denied claim. Pleople, when you submit a claim for any condition, you must do research. Please submit something that help them determine whether your condition is related to any event in service.

        reference: https://www.google.com.pr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEcQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.benefits.va.gov%2Fwarms%2Fdocs%2Fadmin21%2Fm21_1%2Fmr%2Fpart3%2Fsubptiv%2Fch03%2Fch03_seca.doc&ei=PhD3Ucp4h63gA-HRgKAL&usg=AFQjCNEV3BO0f-eayyadQJE3dCrg4O32PQ&sig2=5iVz3WeKfCo26OMpVd4j7g

      • EzjayEzjay commented  ·   ·  Flag as inappropriate

        I think the question should be " why is it that some Gulf War Vets receive compensation for sleep apnea, and some don't?"...These high tech studies should reviel this to us, or is it the way we go by requesting assistance? I would really like to know the answer and what is it those of us who continue to be turned down have to do.

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